I don't know....I think it is still too early to tell for certain.
What I do know is Obama has made things worse for Military families by attacking Tricare as well as taking away the yearly raises that GW used to do.
Lots of people really don't like Obamacare and it's Big Gov't/Socialist similarities.
Add to that Obama/Hillary taking aim at the 2nd Amendment and you've got a recipe for disaster is he wins a 2nd term. I can agree that Romney might be just as bad (when you look at some of his shady/undisclosed background) but yet again....we are faced with choosing the lesser of two evils. Neither is good enough to run the country IMO. Nothing noble about these men.
Taking aim at the 2nd amendment?! I have to jump in here. I happen to be biased as well when it comes to the military and my opinion on Obama in that one area but it doesn't make him an all around bad guy nor does it mean he has bad judgement in every area. Do I want him to be president again? If all we have is Romney, then yes. What he has actually been doing is making it safer to live in the USA, IMO. Tougher background checks, assault weapons ban (which was actually started by Bill Clinton)... I mean really, what person is going to argue with common sense? I don't know so much about Hillary and her gun stance but I would agree that it should be pretty dang hard for anyone to get a gun. You can still own one but it shouldn't be so easy that they are just floating around so that one insane person can collect them to the degree that they have. If you ever notice that when a major crime has been committed involving guns, they always search the person's house finding way more guns than the criminal could carry. In the end, you can still own a gun, but it should take a lot of time and nothing to hide before you can own one. Maybe all the senseless tragedies in our schools, public buildings ect...could have been prevented.
Taking aim at the 2nd amendment?! I have to jump in here. I happen to be biased as well when it comes to the military and my opinion on Obama in that one area but it doesn't make him an all around bad guy nor does it mean he has bad judgement in every area. Do I want him to be president again? If all we have is Romney, then yes. What he has actually been doing is making it safer to live in the USA, IMO. Tougher background checks, assault weapons ban (which was actually started by Bill Clinton)... I mean really, what person is going to argue with common sense? I don't know so much about Hillary and her gun stance but I would agree that it should be pretty dang hard for anyone to get a gun. You can still own one but it shouldn't be so easy that they are just floating around so that one insane person can collect them to the degree that they have. If you ever notice that when a major crime has been committed involving guns, they always search the person's house finding way more guns than the criminal could carry. In the end, you can still own a gun, but it should take a lot of time and nothing to hide before you can own one. Maybe all the senseless tragedies in our schools, public buildings ect...could have been prevented.
Uh oh, you opened the flood gate. Be prepared.
Stop the train for second here. You think guns aren't hard to get as it is? Why does it seem like everyone is calling for background checks as if there isn't any currently being done? Every single gun I recently purchased was also subjected to a background check (which I paid for individually)....and if it was a handgun then it was also registered. These background checks are done through the NICS system which gets it's info from the FBI. How much more difficult should it BE for a law abiding person to get a firearm? Huh?!
What people can't seem to understand is that making guns harder to get ONLY APPLIES TO LAW ABIDING PEOPLE! PERIOD. Criminals that commit crimes with guns WILL also commit a crime to GET A GUN....so your stupid gun laws mean eff all. It just makes law abiding people easier targets. Do you like that idea? I don't.
I'm an FFL03 holder, I'm aware of who started the assault weapons ban. Which in my honest opinion is DUMB. A civilian model AR15, SKS, AK47, AK74 etc...are NOT...I'll repeat that again...NOT "Assault Rifles". Assault Rifles by definition are either fully automatic (like a real machine gun) or they have 3 round burst (as in the case of the US Military's M16A2/M4 aka AR=Armalite Rifle). Anything resembling these rifles that is distributed to the civilian market are no different in operation than any other semi-auto out there. Some states DO permit the use of Semi-Auto rifles for hunting. So, some people LIKE to use these weapons for hunting FOOD.
The law abiding gun owner/hobbyist shouldn't be punished for the actions of a FEW. When is the last time you've heard of a massacre happening at a gun show? Never. So that destroys the myth that guns cause people to go bonkers and start shooting. It doesn't happen. The Anti-Gun people are sooooooooo full of disinformation that it directs those still on the fence to believe in false info. Then they simply regurgitate that same bad info.
Stricter Gun laws/Banning guns isn't "common sense"...it's stupid, plain and simple. Look at Australia....they are having a hell of a time. I'm not making this up as I've got a buddy over there and he tells me all the time how many criminals (biker gangs and the like) that carry guns. So their laws didn't do anything. Drugs are illegal and "hard to get" but somehow people still get them!
I hate how people put gun owners in a category right along with bad, shady criminals. The media is SUPER guilty of this. Just because I own in the neighborhood of 6 firearms doesn't mean I'm going to go out and use them for bad! I'm applying for a permit to conceal carry my handgun soon....and anyone that knows ANYTHING real about concealed carry KNOWS the weapon is used as a last resort/stand your ground situation and only fire when you are given no other choice. The idea that people who conceal carry are essentially "gun totin' cowboys" blows my mind. Anyone that respects human value knows that weapon is only for real defense...of themselves and others.
Some states you DO have to wait for a time before you can get the weapon. Some you don't. Don't try making the entire country like California or New Jersey. Most of my weapons aren't even here....I keep them stored in PA as they are "illegal" in this state (NJ).
People that are Anti-gun need to take a step back really think about the situation. Don't jump on the bandwagon of "If we make stricter laws then tragedies could be adverted" cause point blank....they won't. There WILL be MORE.
"If guns are outlawed ONLY outlaws will have guns" Let that sink in.
Also, one more point. James Holmes didn't have any criminal history that would have prevented him from getting a gun even if it was harder. So, with your stricter gun laws he'd still have gotten guns. It's not up to society to regulate these things, our Constitution says THAT RIGHT WILL NOT BE INFRINGED. It's up to society to teach SAFETY and RESPECT.
And finally a quote from my Australian buddy regarding the stricter Gun laws in OZ:
"To be honest I am no expert on the subject but I think the gun laws in Australia suck bigtime, All of the bikie gangs have guns the crack heads & junkies & crims have guns but Joe citizen doesn't, seems to be a bit one sided in favour of the nutters to me. I'm lucky I live up in the mountains away from the crap that goes on down on the Glitter Strip with all the drive by shootings etc, trouble is I still have to drive down for work."
I know an "Anti" and when I showed her the video of the Salt Lake City man that saved the lives of those being stabbed she told me [Stories like that are] "Far and few". She is missing the point.
GOOD stories pertaining to guns aren't reported as often due to an AGENDA of the media and the powers that be who pull the strings behind the curtain. They don't want guns to look good so they constantly report doom and gloom so people will think badly of guns and owners. Some of what they report about are actually SETUP by the Gov't in order to pursue agendas. Case in point the 1993 WTC bombing. That was setup BY the FBI. Recently, Operation "Fast & Furious" was directed BY the BATFE in order to capitalize on US bought guns coming back into the US in order for illegals to commit crimes with them.
Dig deep and you'll find many more instances where tragedies have been setup by Gov't agencies in order to pursue certain agendas. Currently the Aurora shooting is still in the news. Didn't anyone notice it happened only a few days BEFORE the UN/Obama/Billary were preparing to sign the UN ATT? It was perfect! Have a mass shooting to vilify guns in the eye of the public and this treaty will go off without a hitch! Victims of that shooting confirmed there WAS a second shooter (and possibly a third).
Fast forward to 28 minutes into the audio to hear the shooting as described by the cops on the scene.
Oh, and I forgot....one channel (if listening in stereo) is the firefighter channel, and the other is the police.
I swear...that shooting was a complete setup by someone currently unknown Gov't agency...likely the FBI (although the CIA isn't above something like that).
Take a look at this photo (WARNING....there is some BLOOD!):
This is the door the gunman entered to get into the cinema. See those pink flip flops? Media never reported about them. Why are they really there? I've heard the cover story Obama gave....but it doesn't make sense.
See that AR15 lying on the groun ejection port up? Does it have a drum magazine in it? No. It has a standard 30 round mag. Where those three men are standing down by the corner of the outer wall just behind the last man on the ground is a SWAT shield. This was never reported about yet it's there....and it's considered evidence. The point of all of this is based on the evidence IMO Holmes' didn't commit this act on his own...he likely didn't even fire a shot. Victims scream to the police to find the second shoot wearing a plaid shirt and carrying a red backpack, the police later say he was armed (confirmed by uniforms who gave chase) but he was never caught. Other reports from police say there was still shooting going on in a different theater WHILE they were there! Meanwhile in the audio you can hear another cop say Holmes is in custody. So, we have a second shooter...while Holmes' is in custody...while shooting is going on elsewhere! All relatively close together. A top, highly planned op! Holmes is the perfect scape goat too....he looked awfully doped up in both the pic the media released of him as well as if he was waking up from a nightmare in the courtroom footage. It's possible he was drugged and given a "handler" who directed him to do certain things and be at a certain place. I know how this sounds....just look at the evidence the media isn't reporting! Why?! To pursue an Anti-Gun agenda....lead by Big O and the awful UN.
I'm gonna answer only one post because I have other stuff to do but here go...
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The law abiding gun owner/hobbyist shouldn't be punished for the actions of a FEW
What do you call happened after 911? Last I checked, it takes a lot longer to board a plane and you can hardly take anything on board with you just because of a FEW. Yes, people complain and moan about the process but almost no one complains about the fact that these protections and added security is there. We ALL want to be safe!
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So that destroys the myth that guns cause people to go bonkers and start shooting.
I think you are doing that thing where you assume too much or taking too much offense into something never stated. I never said owning too many guns makes you go crazy. Nor did I state I was against guns. People who are all for guns take any bit of questioning as a call for BANNING ALL GUNS!! which just isn't the case.
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I hate how people put gun owners in a category right along with bad, shady criminals.
Again, where did that happen in ANYTHING I said? When I talked about criminals or someone insane, I didn't lump anyone together.
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Also, one more point. James Holmes didn't have any criminal history that would have prevented him from getting a gun even if it was harder.
No, but a background check that INCLUDES a mental history check would have set off a TON of red flags and refusal to acquire guns legally. People are not questioning his criminal background checks, they question why there were so many red flags but because of the LACK of extensive and thorough check, none of this was picked up on.
Just because people would like stricter laws placed on guns, does not mean they are against all guns! I also vote for the right for women to choose in pregnancy, but does that mean I go around advising abortion? Get my drift here???
The fact is, the laws we have no are not working to get guns into the hands of people with much more common sense that it takes to own a gun. We would be FOOLS to just sit back and say "Everything is ok, this stuff just happens". Instead there are people who are saying "HELLO! Let's look into this to see what can be done." If you have nothing to hide (including a mental history check) then what is the big deal about being checked out? I fully plan on owning a gun and teaching my children the right way to handle one so they don't kill themselves or anyone else. I would also love that when we go back to the states knowing that some kid with an irresponsible parent who has shown to be just that on a record but is also just criminally under the radar isn't going to have a ton of weapons that his crazy kid gets a hold of and brings them to school with MY kid. Or that my neighbor (no really, my actual neighbor) who is also in and out of mental hospital but is not a criminal isn't able to legally get a hold of a gun just because we pissed him off when we asked him to turn his music down. He could very well stab me but at least I'd have a fighting chance. Gun give you almost 0 when placed in the wrong hands and even the right hands. But we are not talking accidents here. We are talking about the fact that the laws we have in place now, are the ones that are not sufficient for the people who should be setting off alarms bells. There will always be something to be obtained illegally. It's being obtained LEGALLY is what we should be deeply worried about. We may not be able to stop them from being passed around under the table but why the crap shouldn't we be able to do it legally?!
Well, who would decide what in our "mental history" disqualifies us from owning weapons? I've got nothing to hide, but the fact I used to see a shrink and was once prescribed Effexor might inadvertently disqualify me from owning weapons....know what I mean?
Also, many of the things you quoted me saying weren't directed at you personally...it was more directed at the anti-gun people. They often mention the things I preemptively mentioned....I was only getting it out of the way.
? I was under the impression the new LU "Masterchef" wasn't the original "Masterchef".....am I wrong? Are you really the OG Masterchef? If you are answer me one question just so I know it's you....What was the name of the crazy movie a mutual friend had us watch with her....Lol!
Please don't take what I say personally...if you are truly Masterchef then I likely don't need to tell you that. If you are the real (CW) Masterchef then you know I love you man!
Oh, the weather here is tha shizzle. It's off da chain! Flippy Floppies and grillin' all day! We've even got a community pool that has Pizza nights! This place is like going to heaven! Woot!
Anyhow, I'm just saying laws aren't going to help anything. Everyone I know hates TSA. Trading liberty for safety isn't what people should be doing. It absolutely solves nothing and gives the Gov't a foothold of our liberties. People constantly complain about TSA groping them and making them drink baby formula just to prove it isn't an explosive. What gets me is the instances where children are groped or parents are asked to remove their babies diapers.
I don't know about you...but I don't like strangers touching my kids. Even in the name of "safety". My kids have a right to privacy and as their Dad I will enforce that right. When we traveled back to Philly from London I was fully prepared to tell TSA to eff off if they asked us to let them do a invasive pat down of our children.
Now, I won't be surprised if Homeland Security decides putting TSA like measures in shopping malls and movie theaters due to everyone not willing to own a gun for their own/families defense.
I fully prescribe to the idea of more guns = safer society. My reason is simple. The more bad guys have guns and the less good guys have guns then you have tragedies like VT, Aurora, Sikh Temple etc...
The more good guys are ENCOURAGED to arm up and carry weapons the more bad guys will think twice about shooting anyone.
If bad guys know it's hard for good guys to get guns....they will go out and steal guns and rob/kill good guys because it's easy and they can do it.
As much as I hate it, I have to side with SSDD on this one...
It's not the legal people we really have to worry about. If you want a gun and can't do it legally, you can still get one pretty darn easy - law or no law. That's how it's always been.
Starsha...I'm not the same SSDD. I'm not the "Depressed in England SSDD". I'm the "Happy, living in beautiful weather no longer vitamin D deficient SSDD".
No more complaining about England for me! Phew! You guys can keep it! :)
Besides....I know you all love it so much and would like to stay another 10 years if possible. More power to ya!
I'm the original. I don't know the movie name but good lord, I don't want to remember! I'll never look at hippos the same way. Or puppets in general really.
Maybe I've been agreeing with the people who want more done to protect the crazy side of the population from getting a gun legally. Maybe it's because I'm affected more with my literally insane neighbor and I can only imagine what he's capable of if he was able to legally obtain a gun. He scares the crap out of me now. Sure he could get one illegally but how more awful would it be if he were to legally obtain one and something happened to someone. That's when people stand up and question what's going on and how this happened. So why don't we try to do more BEFORE people have to question it?
As for the TSA, I kinda see people who complain about it as the same people who would be gobsmacked about where the protection is if 9/11 kept happening because no extra security measures were put in place. I seriously wonder if the people who were personally affected by 9/11 hate the TSA just as much as those who had no family die during that day. What the families of shooting victims think about the measures we have in place and what should be done. I tend to look at these things as if one of these people were someone I knew and loved and it changes my perspective.
There are people here in the UK who have guns, legally and illegally. So why do I undoubtedly feel safer here but feel the need to arm myself as soon as I get back to the states?
I don't feel safe here at all at night!! With all these break-ins in our area and the fact that it's illegal to have any sort of weapon to protect yourself. Especially when you know these criminals aren't intruding into your home un-armed....whether it be a knife or what not. I felt much safer in the states with my concealed weapons permit and my handgun in my room.
P.S. Obama is the Devil and will destroy the world!!! Lol
Chef, I always remember hearing about young kids gettin' knifed over there....a few of them died from their wounds. I'd rather die in a gun fight than in a knife fight. Nick Swardson knows what I'm talking about (google it...you'll giggle)
I tend to be more about the Constitution, cause the more it gets altered in the name of safety the less America remains American. If people keep getting paranoid about the things that give us liberty before too long we'll be living in "Amerika" that will be a part of the "North Amerikan Union". That's not my country! Haha!
Seriously, I believe in it that much that if a Civil War would erupt I would be in the thick of it. Without the rule of law. It really does somehow seem on the horizon...definitely within our lifetime. I know that sounds crazy, but when you tune into all the millions of people that are fed up (just look at all the "occupy" stuff as well as "Anonymous" and how influential they are) with the current broken system. It's not going to change on it's own.
I too felt pretty vulnerable there (in the UK). Especially after our truck got broken into and all the crazy people that would knock on our door offering services (lawn mowed, rubbish removal). People in England are desperate enough to knock on your door drunk! It happened to us down on Woodlands Way in MV. Blec!
The only thing I could do was buy tactical knives that were legal to own and buy a few nice paintball markers. It was the best I could do.
After the window of my truck got smashed out there was one night when a friend was visiting us, she was getting ready to leave (it was night) and she saw a shadow standing on front of our front door....the only thing I had in immediate reach was a spare paintball gun barrel that measured 14". I grabbed it and ran for the door....I ended up chasing a guy down the street but he took off into the woods. Probably a pikey or a teenager. Whatever the case, we perceived it to be a real threat.
The only reason I bought a bunch of guns once I got back to the US is basically because I can, and it's a fun hobby. I love shootin' out at my cousins house. Pretty soon I'm going to get a good rifle/handgun specifically for shooting at the Ft. Dix firing range. Have you ever fired a gun as a hobby? It's truly a wonderful experience.
And fo sho.....walruses and hippos scare the bejesus out of me now....evil perverted things! ;)
Good video....what the crap is up with this site? Why aren't there more options to post videos and whatnot. I'm tellin' ya....Adam & Austin NEED to get with the program and make this place modern. It sometimes reminds me of a website from the dark ages. It's too 1990.
My whole point about these videos is basically Obama. He aims to take the guns away in some form or another. Romney doesn't....I KNOW Romney's track record regarding his time as Governor. It was MUCH less of an effort to remove guns/firearm related items than what Obama has done for his entire career.
Obama HATES guns. America, like it or not is a Gun based society. We are founded by the gun. George Washington and the Continental Army didn't beat the British using the 1st Amendment. He used the gun. Putting more and more restrictions on gun ownership in America will do nothing but foster a perfect environment for more of these mass shootings to take place. I don't prescribe to that. Therefore, I'm not voting for Barry and his ilk.
As much as I dislike Romney....I'll be voting for him. That is unless I see Ron Paul's name on my ballot. Then, of course I will vote for him because honestly he is the man for the job. But, in lieu of Ron Paul....I'll vote for Romney...if ONLY for the preservation of the 2nd Amendment and the rest of the Constitution. Sometimes you've just got to pick your battles.
Hahaha! Honestly, my main way of looking at 9/11 is that something is truly wrong and we need to be asking questions about it. I've read the 911 Commissions book and it raises more questions than it does put the whole thing to bed. Very fishy.